To continue the remodel saga: we had torn out the coat closet and the old built in gun cabinet, the existing wall behind the original tub/shower combo in order to create a larger bathroom upstairs. Hmmmm. Should have worked, only, the new shower came in and takes up all the room we just created! Damn it anyway, as small as it was to begin with. So now we are removing the outside wall in order to build an area for the new shower. Taking up porch space in order to do so but seems as if this will work. Better anyway! I should mention there is a homeowner involved who ordered the darn shower, tho she is generally pretty good, this was a mistake, but, we can fix this.